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Floating Cups
Hmmm... Another mystery of science.
floating cups
i found out that you can put a disc that is mini in-between the two cups ... experiment the rest on your own!
My Sister
My sister, Olivia, is trying to figure this out,too.
Maybe....
I think it to be some sort of Cyclone inside the cup causing it to lift...
I had a couple foam cups and there is a little air inside between the two cups. When you blow it causes some sort of spin of the air causing lift.I tested this further by poking a hole in the side of the cup. It still lifted but I found that the air didn't blow out straight, but blew out at an angle. This is my thoughts on the matter. Good luck :-)
I'm not so sure that is what
I'm not so sure that is what is causing this high levitation.I think that the air travels inside and around the inside of the outer cup,which makes it vibrate so much that the inner cup comes flying out.I'm not so sure that's the cause either.I think this because when he removed the bottom of the cup,it still levitated.But it's just an idea.I could be wrong or I could be right.But I'll still try to find other ideas.
dumb technolodgy!
i really wish this computer would work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cool
I am going to try it.
cool!!!
thats soo cool!!
what if
what if you took straight sided ones and placed them in a regular what would happen?
where do i find
where do i find the cups with straight sides?
p.s. u rock!!!!
Non floating cups
We actually had to build our own. Good luck.
Non floating cups
We tried this with cups that had straight sides and discovered there was no lift! However, we still don't understand what is going on in the cups with slanted sides, but we feel that is the cause of this physics mystery.
Thanks
floating cups
when you have the angled sides the side of the inner cup works as a ramp and pushes the rest of the cup upword.
Cool! Where did you find
Cool! Where did you find cups with straight sides? I have not been able to find any to try that.
Dear Mr. Krampf, Did you ever
Dear Mr. Krampf,
Did you ever figure this out?
-Maggie 12
No, not completely. I go
No, not completely. I go back and play with it now and then, hoping that I will see something that I missed before.
hummm...
well i'll try that! but if you find out what it is i'll really like to know
Ryne
I did this with my students
I had so many wonderful ideas "floating" around the room! I demonstrated the floating cups and then had them try as many different variations as they could think of. We had the inner cup floating out of the outer cup no matter what we did! A hole in the bottom, slit up the sides, every other slit cut out, all the slits shortened up to the rim! One student even cut a hole in the rim and the rim came out until it was too little to stay in the outer cup. Some students had more success than others. The smallest fifth grade girl was the first one to get her cup to float. Really fun and something I could afford to do with my students. Now how do I explain what happened? :)
Would it be okay with you if
Would it be okay with you if I linked to this page from my website? Just asking since some people don't allow linking to their sites if you don't take their permission.
Floating cups
I believe the principle you are experiencing is what is known as the Coanda effect,discovered by Henri Coandă in the early 1900's.He discovered that fluids in motion are attracted to and flow around curved surfaces which creates lift. I work in an R&Dlab where we developed material handling equipment to move various media with the generated lift. A simple demonstration is to take a screwdriver with a round handle, hold it by the blade in a vertical configuration- handle up blade down. Now shoot compressed air at the handle at an acute angle and the screw driver starts to spin and lift out of your hand and will float and spin like magic.By varying the angle you can speed it up or slow it down.
Try a continuous stream of air on your cups you may duplicate the above result.
what
how can that do that andv so many cups
Physics
Science teacher - Norway, so bear with my poor scientific english...
Here's my two cents; I believe the sides of the cups (being angled) may produce the propulsion necessary for the top cup to lift. (they fit in each other because they're both part of cones - or pyramids in the case of the square ones.)
To test this, I propose to find/ make two cups with straight sides in order to eliminate this parameter. A snug fit should provide the same environment as the cups shaped like a cone.
It may be that lifting the weight of the cup proves an easy barrier to the escaping air compared to that of the outblowing wind. I believe this to be consistent with the test where directed flows were applied via straws - on the sides, the air-flow was deflected, and thus the direction the air went, whereas the larger straw (tube) and the direct flow from the small straw provided no easy escape for the outcoming air; thus lifting the cup to make room for the air.
If someone has the equipment to test this, I'd be glad to see the results posted here!
PS - I'm going to use this in my teaching! This is fun!
Cool :0
This is a very interesting experiment, but what would happen if you took the top off the cone and the you blow into the side? That would be the thing that I will test.
i am going to try to.i think
i am going to try to.i think it will still flout.
Floating Cups
I turned the 2 cups upside down. I held onto the bottom cut and blew. Sure enough, the top cup blew off.
Floating cups
I turned the 2 cups upside down. I held onto the bottom cut and blew. Sure enough, the top cup blew off.
the floating cups
that's cool but when you blow on some of the cups they lift just a little bit. Its that little lift that you talked about first and when the cup went sideways it was just taking the path of least resistance.
Parker
i liked it
i think that was awesome!!
Fredric
Maybe the airpressure dossn't go all the way to the backside of the bottom cup, only streams along the front, building a pressure along the sides and front of the mug, making the top mug "climb" up the bottom cup, I got no cups to make experiments but got the idea from when you removed the bottom of the cup and sliced the sides.
Wich means (if my theory works) allows you to remove the bottom and the backside of the bottom mug.
Awesome site by the way, thanks!
floating cups
that was cool i think the air goes threw the sides
Floating cups
I tried cutting a slit down the side, and cutting off the top, and it worked with a slit, and with the top cut off. I used paper cups, because the plastic cups we had didn't work because of the rippled edges.
U ARE AWESOME
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scienctist
Your a true scienctist
Super awesome
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Cups floating :P
Erika!
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You are right!
I tried the experiment my self using the same cups that you used, only I cut a small hole on one side of the inside cup. I then blew on the same side as the hole, and the cup didn't move. I turned the cup around, and blew on the opposite side of the hole, and the cup flew right up!
Awesome
THATS SO COOL
You're right!
I tried the experiment myself with the same cups that you used, but this time I cut a small hole on one side of the inside cup, then blew on the same side as the hole, and the cup didn't move. I then turned the cup around so that I was blowing on the opposite side of the hole, and it flew right up!
floating cups bobby horne sitech
hey mr.krampfm my name is bobby horne and i did some testing of my own and found out what makes the cups lift what actually happens is the cups when u blow on them and what i found was it was friction between the cup and the wind thats beingblown into it pushs the cup to the side and then goes around the cups and creates lift if u want to email me bhorne@hom.rescare.com
floating cups
Did you try putting 3 or 4 cups together?
We put 4 plastic cups together and blew on the side... They all jumped out!
We're having fun with this experiment!
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this is the most coolest show ever
Excellent! I tried that, and
Excellent! I tried that, and it works just as you said. I am delighted that you are experimenting and exploring with this experiment. That is the mark of true scientists!
cups solution
Did you try using perfectly straight cups? My guess is that when you blow in between the cups the air bounces off the walls of the outer cup and back to the inner cup so some air escapes through the slits and some stays in the cup. The slanted cup on the inside makes it easier to force the cup upwards because the slant is pushed a little before the air slips past. This causes some lift. The rest of the lift occurs when the air hits the brim. That's why the the cup won't lift when the top is cut off. Here are a few tests for you to try: cut the brim off of both cups, get straight cups, and instead of cutting the bottom and the strips off of the outer cup, reverse it and do it to the inner cup, but not the outer cup.
Tobias,
11
floating cups
Both the lip and the tapering of the cup were points I thought of, too. In the video, Mr. Krampf said it does work without a lip. But probably better with one. The tapering allows more room for the air to build up in the cup and also maybe is actually pushing the cup as it narrows. I thought paper Dixie cups may be about the straightest you could get. Would it work if you held the cups upside down with your hand in the inner cup? I also agree that the air going around the cup is important, since when the air was directed to the side with a straw it didn't work. Greater surface area affected? Also the video shows it has to be somewhat balanced - the side strips and straw.
I loved the experiment. Lots of exploration and different ideas going on.
cups
Boy, you really put some thought to this expirement.
Cut off the rims!
what if you dut off the rim of the cups? Maybe the air is being trapped between the rims!
Floating cups
The shape of the cup is the answer. You are pushing the inner cup away from you by breathing on it. The cup is actually trying to escape horizontally, but it cannot. However, the wide mouth of the cup provides a way for the inner cup to escape your breath by riding upward (and ultimately away). That is the only way for it to go away from you - to go up.
re: floating cups
I used scrap paper and scotch tape to make some custom-shaped objects to play with: a large cylindrical cup, a large (cylindrical) tube, a medium-sized conical cup, a small cylindrical cup, and a small (cylindrical) tube.
I got lift in these cases: "cylinder in cylinder", "upside-down cylinder in cylinder", "cylinder in cone", "upside-down cylinder in cone", "cone in cylinder", and "upside-down cone in cylinder". (However, for "cylinder in cylinder", "upside-down cylinder in cylinder", and "upside-down cone in cylinder", I only got lift if I ensured that there was room for air under the object before I began blowing. There's automatically air under the inner object in the "cylinder in cone" and "cone in cylinder" cases, so they were easier; but all objects seemed to hover equally well once they got going.) It felt like the lift might have been slightly stronger in the "upside-down cylinder in cylinder" case than in the others, but I'm not at all sure.
I got nothing in these cases: "tube in cylinder", "tube in cone", "tube in tube".
I got suction in these cases: "cylinder in tube", "upside-down cylinder in tube", "cone in tube", and "upside-down cone in tube". (At first I had trouble distinguishing the suction from simple gravity, but then I realized I could rotate the entire experiment. If I blow into the bottom of the tube instead of the top, the object experiences upward suction and rises, and if I turn the tube sideways--sideways like a flute, I mean, not sideways like a blowgun--the object gets propelled out the end I didn't blow into.)
I then cut some pieces off of my cone and my small cylindrical cup, to produce a conical tube with 1.5-inch diameter at the top and 0.5-inch diameter at the bottom and a cylindrical cup with 1.5-inch diameter and a 0.5-inch hole in the bottom. As far as I could tell, these two objects behaved identically to one another (except for the aforementioned fact that a right-side-up cone automatically has air under it so is easier to get started): I got lift in the "holey cylinder in cylinder", "conical tube in cylinder", and "upside-down conical tube in cylinder" cases, and suction in the "holey cylinder in tube", "conical tube in tube", and "upside-down conical tube in tube" cases. The lift was definitely weaker than it had been before (not surprisingly; you'd expect a cylindrical cup with a hole in it to have behavior intermediate between a cylindrical cup with no hole and a cylindrical tube); I think the suction was also weaker, but I'm not sure, especially with respect to the "upside-down conical tube in tube" case.
Finally, I tried setting a loose scrap (one of the pieces I'd cut from my cone) of slightly curled paper on top of the inner object. In the "tube in cylinder", "holey cylinder in cylinder", and "cylindrical tube in cylinder" cases, the scrap flew off. In the "tube in tube", "holey cylinder in tube" and "conical tube in tube" cases (holding the inner object to prevent it from falling through the tube), the scrap flattened itself against the object. (Well, sometimes it would fall off, but I think that was because of random drafts of air, shaky hands, etc., not due to air in the tube. I was happy to see it flattening itself even sometimes, since until then I hadn't been entirely certain that the "suction" effects weren't my imagination.) I wasn't able to use the scrap of paper on the "upside-down conical tube in cylinder" and "upside-down conical tube in tube" cases because it was too hard to keep my scrap of paper balanced on the narrow end of the tube while trying to find the correct angle at which to blow.
cool
that was so COOL!!!!
i should try that!!!!
-Cathryne
cups
Bernoulli's effect.
Hello Mr. Krampf
Hi,
I am by no means a scientist. I am an electronics technician. But I am a good problem solver. When I was watching this video, I thougt that if you could actually see where the air was going...then you could figure out what it was doing. I instantly thought of aero-dynamics tests that they do on experimental cars and airplanes.
I don't know if you smoke not(I recently quit so I'm not brave enough to try this myself)...but perhaps if someone were to take 1 clear plastic cup on the outside,and a solid color cup on the inside, and then inhaled a ciggarette and blew the smoke onto the cups then, you could see whats going on. What would even make it more conclusive is to take a high FPS camera and record the experiment...that way you could play it back in super slow motion to see exactly what the smoke did when it entered the crack between the cups. I bet you would be able to get a lot of interesting data that way.
Hope you get to try it soon!
Thanks,
Max (maxbrokeaway@hotmail.com)
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